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	<title>CNLP 820 &#124; Required Listening: Eric Peterson and Winn Collier on Eugene Peterson&#8217;s Battle Over Not Losing HIs Soul, Workaholism, Bono and Celebrity, And the Tension to Create a Contemplative Life</title>
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	<title>CNLP 819 &#124; Required Listening: Eugene Peterson on the Rhythms of a Reflective Life, The Challenges of Leading Through the 1960s, and the Origin of the Message</title>
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	<title>CNLP 818 &#124; Required Listening: Gordon MacDonald on the View From 80 and 15 Lessons On What Really Matter in Life and Leadership</title>
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	<title>CNLP 817 &#124; Grieving Your Ministry Wounds: Father Ronald Rolheiser and John Mark Comer on Getting Past Bitterness and Giving Your Life and Death Away</title>
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	<title>CNLP 815 &#124; The Death of Secularism: Matt Chandler on Why Pastors Shouldn&#8217;t Wear Capes  and When the Church Is All Wood and No Fire</title>
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	<title>CNLP 814 &#124; Networking Without the Awkward: Michael Bungay Stanier on Better 1:1s and Building a Path No One Else Is Walking</title>
	<link>https://thrivecast.com/podcast/cnlp-814-networking-without-the-awkward-michael-bungay-stanier-on-better-11s-and-building-a-path-no-one-else-is-walking/</link>
	<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2026 23:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[Most leaders don&#8217;t think of themselves as creative. Al Gordon says that&#8217;s the lie keeping you stuck. Al, founder of Renaissance, lead pastor of SAINT in East London, talks about why creativity is the church&#8217;s lost superpower, how stress and algorithms are quietly killing your imagination, and what it actually takes to unlock creativity in...]]></description>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2026 23:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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