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	<title>CNLP 837 &#124; The Overcorrection Against Church Growth: Andrew Hopper on Why We Shouldn&#8217;t Celebrate Church Decline</title>
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	<title>CNLP 836 &#124; The Strengths, Weaknesses and Moral Failures of the Mega-Church Movement: Jimmy Mellado on Healthy Growth, Scale, and Lessons from an Olympian</title>
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	<title>CNLP 835 &#124; How to Trust God When You Don&#8217;t Understand: John Ortberg, Ann Voskamp, and Toni Nieuwhof on Wanting to Give Up and What They Would Believe If They Weren&#8217;t Christians</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2026 23:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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	<title>The Wreckage of a Wrong Scorecard</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2026 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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	<title>CNLP 834 &#124; Everything You Know About Multisite Church is Wrong! What the Largest Multisite Study Ever Done Actually Found with Warren Bird and Sean Morgan</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2026 23:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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	<title>CNLP 833 &#124; The Problem with Going Viral: Seth Godin on the Truth About Influencers, Status and Affiliation and Why You Should Avoid The Race to the Bottom in AI</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2026 23:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[Seth Godin returns to explore the problem with going viral, the truth about influencers, why you don&#8217;t want to play the game of gaining more and more influence online, how status and affiliation drive everything, and why you should avoid the race to the bottom in AI. 🔗 Show Notes 🤖 AI and the Future...]]></description>
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	<title>The Lies We Call Success Part 1</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2026 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[Pre-Order Pete Scazzero&apos;s forthcoming book, Emotionally Healthy Success, at http://www.emotionallyhealthy.org/success and get a free chapter. This is Part 1, and we&apos;re starting where the book starts: the lies we call success. For years I measured my ministry the way most of us do. Attendance. Budget. Baptisms. Conferences that promised the next strategy for growth. It...]]></description>
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	<itunes:author><![CDATA[ThriveCast]]></itunes:author>	<googleplay:description><![CDATA[Pre-Order Pete Scazzero&apos;s forthcoming book, Emotionally Healthy Success, at http://www.emotionallyhealthy.org/success and get a free chapter. This is Part 1, and we&apos;re starting where the book starts: the lies we call success. For years I measured my ministry the way most of us do. Attendance. Budget. Baptisms. Conferences that promised the next strategy for growth. It...]]></googleplay:description>
	<googleplay:explicit>No</googleplay:explicit>
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	<title>CNLP 832 &#124; Building Your Personal Board of Directors: Annie F. Downs on AI Friendship vs. Real Friends and Why Christians Need to Stay in the Secular World</title>
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	<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2026 23:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[Annie F. Downs joins the show to talk about why every leader needs a personal board of directors and who actually belongs there. Carey and Annie discuss why AI friendship can never replace the real thing and why Christians need to stay in the secular world instead of retreating from it. Plus, we get a...]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[Annie F. Downs joins the show to talk about why every leader needs a personal board of directors and who actually belongs there. Carey and Annie discuss why AI friendship can never replace the real thing and why Christians need to stay in the secular wor]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>CNLP 831 &#124; Is AI Worse for Mental Health Than Social Media? Andy Stanley and Holly Goddard Interview Carey Nieuwhof</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2026 23:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[We missed what social media would do to human flourishing. We can&#8217;t afford to miss what AI is about to do, especially to the next generation. Andy Stanley and Holly Goddard sat down with Carey Nieuwhof on AI, mental health, employment, and the isolation it&#8217;s accelerating, and why the church might be the one place...]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[We missed what social media would do to human flourishing. We can&#8217;t afford to miss what AI is about to do, especially to the next generation. Andy Stanley and Holly Goddard sat down with Carey Nieuwhof on AI, mental health, employment, and the isol]]></itunes:subtitle>
	<content:encoded><![CDATA[We missed what social media would do to human flourishing. We can&#8217;t afford to miss what AI is about to do, especially to the next generation. Andy Stanley and Holly Goddard sat down with Carey Nieuwhof on AI, mental health, employment, and the isolation it&#8217;s accelerating, and why the church might be the one place...]]></content:encoded>
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	<itunes:duration>01:06:04</itunes:duration>
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	<googleplay:explicit>No</googleplay:explicit>
	<googleplay:block>no</googleplay:block>
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	<title>CNLP 830 &#124; AI Parenting Advice: James Kelly on Whether AI Is Sinful in Nature and the Killer App Trap</title>
	<link>https://thrivecast.com/podcast/cnlp-830-ai-parenting-advice-james-kelly-on-whether-ai-is-sinful-in-nature-and-the-killer-app-trap/</link>
	<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2026 23:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
	<dc:creator><![CDATA[ThriveCast]]></dc:creator>
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	<description><![CDATA[Faith Tech&#8217;s James Kelly sits in rooms with the people building AI companies and models, and he&#8217;s blunt about what that means for your kids. He unpacks the Killer App Trap, why he won&#8217;t let his own kids use AI companions yet, and reflects on how AI itself is subject to the fall. 🔗 Show...]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[Faith Tech&#8217;s James Kelly sits in rooms with the people building AI companies and models, and he&#8217;s blunt about what that means for your kids. He unpacks the Killer App Trap, why he won&#8217;t let his own kids use AI companions yet, and reflec]]></itunes:subtitle>
	<content:encoded><![CDATA[Faith Tech&#8217;s James Kelly sits in rooms with the people building AI companies and models, and he&#8217;s blunt about what that means for your kids. He unpacks the Killer App Trap, why he won&#8217;t let his own kids use AI companions yet, and reflects on how AI itself is subject to the fall. 🔗 Show...]]></content:encoded>
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	<itunes:summary><![CDATA[Faith Tech&#8217;s James Kelly sits in rooms with the people building AI companies and models, and he&#8217;s blunt about what that means for your kids. He unpacks the Killer App Trap, why he won&#8217;t let his own kids use AI companions yet, and reflects on how AI itself is subject to the fall. 🔗 Show...]]></itunes:summary>
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	<googleplay:image href="https://cdn.thrivecast.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/09/Apple_Podcast_Thumbnail_1400x1400-1.png"></googleplay:image>
	<googleplay:explicit>No</googleplay:explicit>
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